Plugged In: Interview with Wicca Phase Springs Eternal
Wicca Phase Springs Eternal is among one of the influential creatives in the underground scene that continues to cross our radar, with his music flowing just as well as his name reads. From his time with Tiger Jaw, to his role in GothBoiClique, he has embraced countless sides of the music scene, and it shows in his music. Wicca Phase is raw talent, and that talent of his has shaped a lot of what the underground scene is today. We got the chance to chat with him about his extensive musical career and his recent EP, Corinthiax, in an interview below.
You have had a pretty amazing track record over the last few years and have been gliding down your own path, so tell me, what drew you to begin making music in the first place?
I think I started like in middle school. My friends had older brothers that were in bands so then me and all my friends started doing it. I had taken piano lessons, but I wasn’t writing songs or anything like that, so I got a guitar around 11 or 12 and from there started writing songs. I wasn’t really interested in learning songs from then on, I just really wanted to write songs and be in a band.
I was in a bunch of bands in middle school and high school, pretty regularly from that point on. I could have gone full-time with Tiger Jaw but I kind of wanted to do my own thing.
Tell me a little bit about your role in GothBoiClique.
I had met Coldhart through Tumblr years ago and we started working together a little bit, and he sent me a beat called “GothBoiClique” or something and I was just like “We should start a group like that” kind of half-serious, but then it got serious pretty quickly. It was really just supposed to be a loose affiliation but then it got pretty serious.
Would you like to share with the readers one of the I’m sure numerous memorable moments you have had with GothBoiClique and Lil Peep?
We all hadn’t played too many group shows, but we did one either early 2017/late 2016 in LA and it was the first time I met him. We had talked on the phone prior to that and online, but this was like a week or two after we decided to put him in the group, so I had never met him in person. He was just really sweet; he keeps to himself, and even then he was super popping.
We hit it off instantly [at least I think we did] and yeah he was just really sweet. It’s such a relief to meet someone like that because I think the scene and music in general is so ego-driven, especially when you are an independent artist. He was super generous and even tried to give me this Devil’s jersey he was wearing, and I didn’t take it, but I kind of wish I did now.
Now let’s talk about your recent EP. Where did the name Corinthiax stem from?
Early on I was trying to do more occult stuff and build some fictional mythology/theme that I could carry throughout my music, and I came up with that name as “Corinthians” but with an “x” at the end. I don’t know why, but it just sounded cool, and I had been using that in songs putting it in one song in the album not really knowing what it meant, and aiming to explain it later. Then I kind of got out of trying to do dark, mysticism-like stuff with my music because I just wasn’t very good at it, I didn’t know enough.
Then when I was doing this EP I felt like it was a good time to revisit this stuff because I know more about it and have been doing a lot of reading. The whole EP is love songs and it touches on the paranormal, and the dark, and that was plan, and “Corinthiax” is the overarching theme in a sense.
Do you have a favorite song off of this EP?
Yeah “High Strangeness” which is the second song. I like up-tempo songs and I think it sounds nice, if that makes sense. “Corinthiax” is such a heavy song to open with, and I was just happy with the way that “High Strangeness” came out because it’s kind of a relief from my heavier songs.
Aside from it being your most recent project in which you have obviously evolved in your musical career, what would you say draws this project apart from all of your other work?
Logistically it was way different, between releasing Stop Torturing Me. In between, I had like a marketing job for a while, then I started going full time with music, got a manager, booking agent, etc. I knew that when I was making it that I didn’t have anymore time to just release stuff without putting more thought into it. It was a pretty thoughtful project, and I knew that there were going to be other people involved so I really didn’t want to waste anyone else’s time and wanted it to be good. It was the first time I had ever recorded a bunch of songs and cut it down to a few that went well together. Normally it’s like once I release, I have a number in mind, and then the album is posted immediately.
I just tried to put more thought into it, and had someone like Foxwedding working with me who is just so talented and really understood what I was trying to do.
How would you characterize the current emo/rap-rock underground community, and what does it mean to you to be a part of it?
I really don’t know how I would characterize it because it’s so new. So many people have popped up in the last two years and a lot of them are crazy good and haven’t even been playing music long. It’s played out in so many ways where some people really took off and reached celebrity status, like Peep who might be the closest thing to a household name from this scene.
So many people are passionate about this, and when they’re working hard it really shows. It also plays out where some people like Horsehead might not be getting as much recognition. And some people might categorize what we do as the same music, but a lot of times it isn’t, and I think that just shows how wide a range this scene has even though it sounds very specific.
What does the rest of the year hold for you?
I’m recording for an album right now that probably might not come out until early 2019, but I’m hoping to finish that in July. It’s part of a larger project so it’s going to take a few months to release. I have a ton of shows and it’s the first time I’ve been actively trying to do shows so that’s new and exciting. I believe I’m going to Europe around June for a week, so yeah it’s going to be super busy but writing and recording are always my number one priority.